Efficiency
#21
The new efficiency ratio is simply wrong Smile
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#22
Yes, thats correct !

But without the "denominator", poor performing station will be pushed up, if they sending a lot of signals (and maybe a few more strokes). Thats not good for the network.

[Image: efficiency_l.png] [Image: efficiency.png]

You see the difference ?  I find the red graphic fair. It doesn't denominate good performing station, but suppresses heavy signal-jammer. And it also shows good performing stations with less signals at the right side in the graph, not only on the left side.

Thomas
First station in Namibia (Southern Africa), look at #1305 !
Stations: 1006, 1305
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#23
(2015-07-21, 17:04)Knickohr Wrote: But without the "dominator", poor performing station will be pushed up, if they sending a lot of signals (and maybe a few more strokes). Thats not good for the network.
Hi Thomas,

But as the screenshot I posted shows; A station with Less strikes and more signals is ranked higher. The 2 stations I compared here are only 10km apart. 
   
I agree with Kriu. This can not be right.
Stations: 711, 1351
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#24
Its depends on how less and how more Wink

Thomas
First station in Namibia (Southern Africa), look at #1305 !
Stations: 1006, 1305
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#25
(2015-07-21, 18:54)Knickohr Wrote: Its depends on how less and how more Wink

Thomas

I attached a screenshot. So you can see how less and how more...

Gerhard
Stations: 711, 1351
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#26
It has something to do with this :

"This is the old effectivity value multiplied by the factor min (Strikes / Signals(s), Signals(s) / Strikes)."

Thomas
First station in Namibia (Southern Africa), look at #1305 !
Stations: 1006, 1305
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#27
(2015-07-21, 19:26)Knickohr Wrote: It has something to do with this :

"This is the old effectivity value multiplied by the factor min (Strikes / Signals(s), Signals(s) / Strikes)."

Thomas

Read that.... it is posted in this thread. Confused
Or do you think sending more signals and less strikes is better?? I guess you know better...

I hope Egon, or one of the developers finds time to reply

Gerhard
Stations: 711, 1351
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#28
(2015-07-21, 19:26)Knickohr Wrote: It has something to do with this :

"This is the old effectivity value multiplied by the factor min (Strikes / Signals(s), Signals(s) / Strikes)."

Thomas

Read that.... it is posted in this thread. Confused
Or do you think sending more signals and less strikes is better?? I guess you know better...

I hope Egon, or one of the developers finds time to reply

Gerhard
Stations: 711, 1351
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#29
Hi Folks,

I am really impressed by your ambition to analyze the effectivity in such detail. Smile

If we find a more useful computation, I will change it, no problem, but I need arguments not only suggestions to improve own stations. Exclamation


Let us recal the  notations and the original value I have used in the past.

The values consider the last hour.

Strikes (x,s) = number of strikes computed by our network in a rage of x km to station s

Hits (x,s) =  number of strikes computed by our network in a range of x km to station s at that station s was involved

Signals (s) = number of signals of station s

Strikes() = total number of strikes computed by our network in the region to that the station sends data (note that some border stations send strikes to several regions)

min (x,y) = minimum of x and y

The old values for the effectivity of a station S were:

Effecitivity S = Hits (50km, S) / Strikes (50km)
Effecitivity M = Hits (500km, S) / Strikes (500km)
Effecitivity L = Hits (5000km, S) / Strikes (5000km)

The disadvantages are the following:

1.) A station S with very very low Hits (5000km, S) can easily get an Effectivity L of 100% if it is placed in a region where all computations can only be done with the help of this station (for example, a border position). Stations in densely populated areas usually get lower values.

2.) If Signals (s) increases, then often Hits (5000km, S) also increases a little bit. Some stations have tenfold its Signals (s) only to increase its effectivity by 1 percent. This increases the load of our servers significantly


So I have added the additional factor:

min (Strikes / Signals (s), Signals (s) / Strikes)

And now your suggestions for a more adequate computation of an effectivity. Wink
Stations: 3071, 3073, 3074
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#30
(2015-07-23, 06:27)Egon Wrote: And now your suggestions for a more adequate computation of an effectivity. Wink

No suggestion, I agree with Egon. I have advantages for all my stations. case 1 (Namibia) and case 2 (Germany). Heavy signal-jammer should be suppressed.

Thomas
First station in Namibia (Southern Africa), look at #1305 !
Stations: 1006, 1305
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